I think there needs to be a clearer definition of hateful. So far, I haven't ready any post where the poster reported what they told the therapist - that I would describe as hateful. I believe therapists can take care of themselves and handle clients who are not tactful and who show their anger as well as those who are afraid of anger. Whether one wants to be "hateful" or not is a different question. Frankly there have been times I have wanted to hurt the woman with words. It is always in response to times when she has mocked or made fun of me (she admits she has made fun) I have even been unremorseful when she reacted to my response. I don't think I managed to actually hurt her. But I am not particularly sorry about it either way. She has never apologized for making fun of me either. So I figure we are even. I am not going to roll over and not react to her not taking me seriously. And if after trying to get her to stop by saying "stop making fun of me" - she refuses or ignores me - then I am going to push her back in a stronger manner that gets her attention. I do not feel like being mean to a therapist is a big deal, I don't think it effects them, and I think most clients think they are being a lot meaner than they really are. Plus I think accepting one has mean urges and acting on it won't destroy the therapist is not a bad thing to see and experience. I have always felt justified in my attempts at being mean to the therapist. I don't do it gratuitously. Or maybe the idea of me being a mean person to someone to whom it does not matter or affect (effect? I never pick the right one) is less upsetting to me than the idea that I let a therapist run me over or humiliate me without pushing the woman back. Frankly I am more upset about never remembering when to use affect versus effect. (although not upset enough to actually memorize the rule).