if we hadn't survived the shame, there would be NO ONE LEFT on PC!!! been there, done that, here's your t-shirt! I once texted my T on a friday evening to watch a rerun of a TV interview, cos he told me to if it ever came on again. I was mortified! But he said HE was more embarrassed to be caught at home on friday night with the tv remote in his hand. So - you're extending yourself, and that's scary. we were very brave. and we were accepted, not rejected. good on us.