{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Dave}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Vent away! I feel exactly as you do. They're not getting any more gifts or help from me. It's time they both learned to manage their money. Yes, I want to do right by my son, but from now on, to "do right" by him is to let him grow up on his own; to let him make his own mistakes and to sweat it out on his own when he/they overspend. They are under her family's control, so it's going to be a longer road than usual.

I don't know what her reasons are for not letting me see the kids, except that she's mad at me. In a talk with my son, he validated my statement that the kids don't suffer anything in my company. He knows she's interfering in the relationship between my grandkids and I, but he's going along with her, I guess, in order to keep her happy. He does quite a bit of that in all areas.

Dave, I hope I didn't trigger you, but it sure helps to see someone get as upset as I get when something so unfair happens. It's not much different than what your "friends" are doing to you. They're "users" and "fair weather friends!!" It wasn't that long ago that I thought if he wasn't my son, I'd removing him from my life. He takes and takes and never gives back. There have been times that I've sacrificed my time, my health and my money for him and his family but when I ask for a little bit of physical help, do you think he gives it to me? NO! Never! I can forgive, but am I going to forget? I hardly think so!

Right now, it just feels like I raised a pack of ungrateful assholes! It's not just him.

Dave, I think those of us who are generous to a fault oftentimes go through tough times like these; you with your so-called friends and me with my kids.

PS I've missed you on the board. Good to see you posting again.





<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>