well, not all doctors take the "I doctor, you crazy, take your pills and STFU and if you don't want to take them it's symptom of your illness". I think we are speaking of the 'tards.

and no i don't want a vegeance... I see it as sending rich brats to volunteer in Africa. Changes their perspective. You cannot miss something you have. It's easy to speak of "fat and happy" when you are fit and atheletics and it's the others who are fat.