thanks canders, it really usually does help. They give me Toridol, which is a very strong anti inflammatory and pain med (sort of a super-ibuprofren type drug if you will) as I am allergic to all natural and synthetic opiate based drugs like codeine, morphine (though i honestly dont think i am bad enough to require morphine anyways but you get the jist) Hopefully going to get re referred to therapy for my back, since it helped in the past. Its been really good for a year or two and suddenly this summer just flared up.