Hey Popt. Are you taking any depression medication? I also have the sleep problem you are describing, but discovered early on that one of the older medications, trazadone (Desyrel), was very effective with that. It's a side affect of the medication that it helps me sleep. I tried just about everything else with the exception of the tea, and the traz is the one that has the least amount of undesirable affects. In fact for me it has no bad affects, if I take the right amount at the right time. In addition, it has the added benefit of helping my other medication with the depression. If you haven't tried it you might ask your doctor about it. Like every other med. it doesn't work exactly the same for everyone. I know the desparation and frustration you are experiencing, lack of sleep affects every mental and physical process of the body. Good luck, and God bless. Dave.