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I just want to say that when I read your original post here, I felt I understood some of what you were going through. I wasn't sure if my input would be helpful though.
I for one, do feel empathy when you or anyone here, is going through hard times, such as you have described in this thread.
</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> thanks fb
last night in chat down was kind enough to pass along some words from both of youse

ty very much to you and down for your sentiments.
it can be terrifying to have seemingly new ways (visions of that is) of harming oneself crop up suddenly and so strongly. thus the lyrics as explanation.
ty for your words.