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Old Nov 07, 2012, 02:45 PM
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When it comes to dealing with humanity though, statics are just sooooo boring though! No, seriously though, have we "advanced" so much that we can quantify human lives, emotions, and perhaps human nature in itself? Anyone with an academic background can tell you that, assuming you have a reliable source, various sources provide various statistics for almost anything. Somethings the varying statistics are similar, and sometimes provide different conclusions.

Objective thinking alone is useless without subjective thoughts. We're dealing with humanity at large, not mathematics. And can suicide and happiness really be intertwined statistically? Some of the statistically happiest countries in the world have the highest suicide rates by %, yet others that are on that list are considered very very happy.

Statistically speaking, Lithuania has the highest suicide rate in the world...AFTER the fall of communism and the country moved well on ahead compared to their other Baltic neighbours. After the quality of life went up, so to speak. So once again, is suicide a statistic we can really use to help deal with happiness? Let's try to not quantify happiness with such a silly statistic.
First off, I do love that poem so. But it's sad. Cause this is how we are seen. Maybe it is one of the reasons why we feel the way we do? Some of us are just more sensitive and take it harder.
Maybe alienation is sort of trauma.

I guess it bothers me when people view others as statistic. Once I seen a blog of some MH "advocate" who was all over statistics (to the degree that if somebody told her about bad experience, her reply was "sorry to hear, BUT...").

So stastics are often pointless, can be falsified (I worked in market researcher. Mom did opinion polls... and I hate to admit it, but sometimes when you don!t get enough respondents, you fake few questionaires. Funnily, somebody once linked me to happiness in eastern bloc research which my mom did among other things). There's many ways to interpret them. They lack soul.

Norway's suicide are quite high up. And it's number one (or at least in the top consistenly) on human development index.
Suicide rates have to a lot with culture and you cannot really create data on "are Russians more decandent then the Dutch". How'd you measure decadence?

And yet, it makes sense to discuss this. We can learn a lot from qualitative research too, even if it's not so clearly interpreted and it's much harder to do.
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