I guess I should just ask her how she felt about it... And if she felt bad then she should take it up with her T... I would assume the T meant it to be light hearted... I will test it on my son.. He is 26 and old enough.. I will tell he was a cold turd when he was a teen.. see how he reacts.. I am soooooo glad I posted this.. Gosh i could have told her the wrong thing..... Guess this is rather new to me.. the expression "cold turd"...I will play with it with my friends.. not the cold turds.. lol... just the expression.... grins