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Old Nov 15, 2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Denotsed View Post
You can't 'overcome' experiences, life is all about experiences. Consciously observing events ( I don't think there needs to be an "event" for this to happen ---> introduced new information to the brain, this information can strengthen or weaken current behaviours and core beliefs or create new ones (Experience). Always changing, you can't be above experiences. <--- your perception, not mine tho. I didn't say above them either. I think you can shape your experiences, just as you can shape your perception. I do believe we have a lot of choice in the matter, more than we are taught.

Dog bites you when your a baby? You will fear dogs for the rest of your life unless you have positive experiences with dogs to change that core belief that dogs are bad and are to be avoided.

Grow up in a Catholic family? your going to believe in the god they portray and this will greatly differ from how you see the world as opposed to someone that grew up in an Atheist home.

Do the two examples above contradict the statement below?

Apparently it's hard for people to accept that everyone doesn't perceive the same world. It's the same world, but everyone’s brain interprets it differently, because everyone’s brain IS different.
Just because a dog bit you, or you grew up in a religious home does not predict the outcome, and an event ( experience ) is not needed to get from point a to point b. I have been in both situations, I didn't have positive doggy experiences to overcome the fear of dogs you say I will have for the rest of my life, I did not develop a fear of dogs. I have been bit more than once, more than twice.. I do have a phobia of birds, with no experience, I could get past that if I wanted to I am sure. I am not a christian even though I was more than heavily raised in it. I could just have easily choose to go on believing, I had no reason not to, no experience to say stop.

The ability to choose, or not to choose, awareness of self, awareness of our thoughts and the ability to observe our thoughts ( can lend to changing core beliefs ) is very much a part of consciousness. It is not just external factors effecting the internal process. Yes experience has an effect, but you do with with the experience what you choose. It's not so black and white.

I understand you don't agree, and that's totally fine. I am just expanding on what I said since you asked if anyone thought differently and asked for feedback, and I am trying to understand what you are saying. I think it has more to do with everyone's consciousness being different and unique to some degree than the actual physical brain in this case, is that what you meant?

Tho I am not the person you had a talk about this with in social chat, since I never chat. I do have a different opinion than you, but that does not mean I am not interested in the brain, or consciousness, which I don't think are quite the same thing. Like you I also love Physics, and I think you may be Canadian .. Like me .. I picked up on a slight spelling you used.

There is a quote from a man in your signature, he also spoke about ..thinking that you can not change at will as being a delusion. I think that could apply here.
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