I have a hard enough time getting past the voices of shut up and don't tell and strong urges to self injure in order to say even the smallest details while remaining aware. I can say yea I was touched or I was raped but anything beyond that I end up saying from inside my tunnel area while whatever piece of memory is replaying and or after I have totally disociated into la la land and then I have no awareness of that memory replaying. and I have not been religiously abused. The closest thing I have come to a priest was bible study classes and being babtized/.

so I don't know how those that have gone through religious abuse get past being able to tell what happened to them without experiencing the dissociating and self injury and so on in order to be able to actually name the religious people involved and the religious cerimonies and so on.

Those that I know that are not multiple and have been abused by their priests and so on tell me that when they are forbidden totalk about the religion part of it its relatively easy to say the abuse situations with out getting into the politics of this religion vs that religion.

We cant do the this religious belief vs that one here but you can say things like my abuser was my priest and he did this that and the other thing to me. Saying those things does not involve the politcs of religious beliefs vs another one. you are just stating what happened to you.

Its kind of like the real time support group her that I very occasionally go to.

I stopped going because some of what they were putting rules on was limiting people and other reasons too.

But one night the facilitator came in and said we could no longer say things like - I was raped by a black man. EXCUSE me but not allowing a survivor to tell what happened to them is wrong. we have been told all our lives be quiet don't tell and now this friend of mine finally got the corage to say I was raped and they shut her down because the word black was in her sentence.

it wasnt like she was putting the race downlike for example saying - blacks are bla bla bla.

All she was doing was naming her abuser - I was raped by a black man. thats like a person saying they were raped by a store keeper or a white guy or the father, grandfather babysitter and so on.

Evangelista you can name your abuser - its ok to say if you were raped by a religious person and write about your memories that you are remembering.

The rule against discussing religion here if I remember right its because talking about specific belief systems and the politics behind those beliefs leads to rpoblems of people possibly putting someone elses regious beliefs down. everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs.

But you can say this happened to me, that happened to me and it was by so and so with out getting into christians believe this, baptists, believe that, mormans, believe this and buddists believe that and so on down the various religions in the world.

If you need to put words to what happened to you and can do that - go for it. ((((((((((Evangelista))))))))))