Thanks Perna ..yes i did go to an ortho...seems like i went to a bunch of dentists also over the years. I am seeing a jaw specialist who made me a bite guard and it does seem to help a little. I asked him about braces but he said that in my case he is afraid it might make everything worse. . If you don't mind me asking: were "just" your teeth off or also your jaw? Meaning my jaw is really leaning to one side now and it is very noticeable when i smile. Which i rarely do now thanks to that problem. Are you still wearing the braces and is there a chance that the problem will come back once they are removed?