(((((GMAN)))) I am so sorry this is happing to yall. Between reduced daylight and what ever that seasonal disorder is, and Thanksgiving and Christmas putting thoughts of family right here on top of us, it is hard to stay afloat. (at least for my little family)

If things are at rock bottom then they can only get better. Kids do seem to help pull us out of these ugly moments sepicially w/ Christmas. They are so happy and excited so full of life and hope. Sometimes life takes the faith of a child to pull us threw life's difficult moments.

Please take care of yourself to Gman. Talk to who ever you need to. The T can help sort things out better then we can here at PC. Talk to us here at PC it feel different to talk to a friend then someone you pay. Every person who responds just proves you are not alone. They/we care about you and can relate at least somewhat with the PTSD, abuse, families and so many other things. Remain strong your wife needs you, you are her rock her hero. Those kids need there daddy. Keep your head up. It has to get better. (especially if you are already at the bottom)