Thanks, I agree that it's gone to far, and I shouldn't have to hide or avoid them. I just need the strength and bravery to say, Hey, I'm poor too fools. I feel like a sucker as well with my Mom. She's a junkie and has the most creative ways of manipulating me and making me feel bad for her, although she put herself in the situation she is in. I'm just going to have to grow some balls and put my foot down, if worse comes to worse I'll just have my husband do it for me.....but still that does nothing for my character.