
Jan 03, 2013, 10:03 AM
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Member Since: Dec 2011
Location: Long Island NY
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Originally Posted by amandalouise
on the word fragment... here where I live and work that term is used to describe what has happened..
example a paper plate is ripped into many different pieces. the plate is said to be fragmented.
so here where I live and work it is believed that the alters have been split off... walled off in other words the persons mind has been fragmented from one whole person into one person and many alters.
I do understand that some locations and mental health treatment providers do differentiate between fully formed alters that fit the DSM diagnostic criteria for having DID and alters that are for lack of better words just snippets of emotions, events, memories. and such, use the term ....fragment.... versus ...real alters.....
we dont do that here where I live and work. we have found that it can be upsetting to people who have these types of alters that are snippets, bits and peices when we have tried to call their kind of alters "fragments" some times it can make a client feel like we think they are faking it or that their kind of alters are not important..
so here we used the updated term ...Ego States. this way the client doesnt feel like we are saying their kind of alters are not as important as the type of alters that fit the dsm diagnostic criteria.
Ego states and alters that fit the DSM diagnostic criteria are vastly different types of alters, but the treatment for both is pretty much the same thing... learning grounding, attempting to establish co consciousness and communication where the ability to do is exists and for some people integration.
I have had the alters that fit the DSM diagnostic criteria, ego states, and a third kind of alters called introjects. introjects are alters formed to/ for lack of better words become the carbon copy of an abuser, or other negative type person in a persons life.
an example of an alter that is "categorical" or as the DSM term uses "distinct" was my depressed alter. her job and reason for being was to hold my sad memories, try to kill herself, cried a lot, wore gray or neutral dont call attention to me type clothing. everything about her was sadness.
An example of one of my ego states type alter or in your words a fragment...is my feeling like a child about to get reprimanded ..queit meek fearful, jump at loud noises, Sometimes I was able to remain aware sometimes not.
an example of one of my introjects type alters was when I would hear this voice either in my head or coming out of my mouth putting me down, criticizing me, threatening me, acting out abuses on me when ever I tried to tell anyone what was going on, punishing me when the alter felt I had done wrong.
my therapist and I worked the same way with each of my alters regardless of whether they were ego states, introjects or categorical. regardless of what kind they were, they were there for a reason and they all had their own thoughts about things, their own jobs purposes and reasons for being.
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My understanding is that alters and ego states (as you put it) are created when we are young and that they are created to help and protect us. My thinking is that "interjects" is a demeanor that is adopted by an alter that has become angry with the host/original. It doesn't make sense to me that I would create an abusive alter. I have discovered that at least one of my helper alters had become angry with me for not acknowledging his help during the abuse. He acted similar to the abuser by calling me names and suggesting that I kill myself. We have spoken and he let me know why he was always telling me to kill myself. He was upset because I had not acknowledged him and thanked him for his help. I know him now and I have apologized for not knowing him before and not acknowledging his help. He seems to be ok with me now. I am trying to find out more about the theory behind the development of interjects. I know I have another "interject" but she is in the dark place and came out once to defend the small ones. Her presentation was a lot like one of my abusers. It was a weird experience hearing her speak to my t. She is still with me just not coming forward. I am still experiencing and learning about my system and DID. I appreciate your responding to my post. I will see if I can refer to my fragmented parts as distinct parts. They might like that better. You and the others on this site have been a great help to me and give me a place go go when I need to get stuff out of my head. Thanks.
Last edited by Claritytoo; Jan 03, 2013 at 10:05 AM.
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