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Originally Posted by BlessedRhiannon
And there's evidence that animals, especially dogs DO suffer from PTSD, and need help recovering from that. I've seen it happen, and it is not always a quick recovery process. It's not that the animals are trying to repress or fight the reactions, it's more that events have created a physiological AND psychological response in the dogs that causes behavior changes. http://news.discovery.com/animals/pe...tsd-121127.htm
You said you wanted debate, but the more I read, the more I see you simply repeating your initial premise in various ways, and dismissing all others. It seems more like you simply need to validate that what you think is the one correct answer. That's fine, if that's what you need. Please don't dismiss others experiences and truths, though. |
I'm not dismissing anything. "involuntary experience" was completely concrete and
crystal clear to me but obviously not to others so I've been trying to make it
clear and concrete.
Whether or not dogs experience PTSD is irrelevant to my main point.
I'm sure domestic dogs do experience it but probably not wild dogs as the evidence suggests.
I'm looking for holes in my theory, not validation.
I'll try to condense my point that I don't think anyone has yet disputed.
There is one core element to all psychological pain and
if that element doesn't exist, there would be no pain and no reason for therapy.
That element is internal experience we can't (directly) control AND that
is UNWANTED--we try to repress or ignore.