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Old Jan 24, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by beauflow View Post
(((Thanks all for the inputs))

Douglas McNeill thanks for the links too

Amandalouise -
I can respect your disagreeing with this idea- (To be honest though, I am not sure if it is of the story of how I stumbled upon it or if the idea of on sub selves is what is disagreed with) either way though-

As the Link that MudCrab posted that is of Peter K. Gerlach, he mentions "a very alien idea to many, even some mental health professionals"
Peter Gerlach does claim to be in the mental health profession himself-

But to be honest, that is the great thing with psychology--- It will be an ever growing field.
Personally I can truly respect docs that mention there is so much to still learn with things of the brain; so they keep learning even if they have their doctorates.


And I can agree with you Amandalouise-, kids i knew back in my youth, their parents divorced and they did not seem to have struggle within themselves as I did,
- My parents relationship is very long if i went into detail, very unstable and chaotic, some times people get lost when I talk about due to how dysfunctional it actually is/was.. even after their offical divorce- they were still together playing their dysfunctional games.... with me or other siblings in the middle of it all... divorce, funny thing is- I knew some kids back in my youth that they had some troubles like I did but the house hold they lived in were like mine, chaotic and the parents still together. divorce was not the issue.

And what I mean for myself- by very conflicting rules and morals from each parent- is not that "at mom's house i had to obey her rules, and at dad's i had to obey his" To be honest, to a degree- we all that go to schooling out side of the home, have to deal with that already- at home there are rules, and at school there are different rules.

No I had two or more, conflicting rules, that i had to obey all the time, under the same roof- Not To Mention Morals of my parents were totally different....

And even then some may say they understand and simplify it... it is not simply a disagreement that many house holds do have - example "should they be allowed to go to their friend's sleep over at age 8 or should they be 12".. no not disagreements like that.

And this for me is simplifying the moral conflict even though I know there was more than just this

One that always promoted to be kind, and be true to yourself, that working was good for you to do, to take out some time to think (dad)--
while the other was- steal, lie, and deceive to get your way and what you want no matter who it hurts as long as your are getting what you want- but if you do it to me- I will get you for it type of mentality (mom)

Thank goodness for a little balance though right

no sadly for me it was much more deep and confusing than just a divorce and having to obey different rules at different houses-- think if i had that I would not be so lost with in myself as I am today. Let alone- Don't let me get into my siblings-- i have enough posts out there of last year of my brother with talking with others, with trying to cope with things that effected me of him.

But that is just my opinion of course, with my life.

((Open Eyes)) thank you; I know you know a lot of me and my situations and all....

I tend to agree with a lot you posted here... A lot of subconscious absorption that takes place as we grow;

The idea with sub selves, it does make sense to me due to I feel this-- with in me.----

Last therapist and pdoc didn't dx me with DID and I explained a little to them of my "different me's" to them; but then again maybe that is why "severe was placed in front of the PTSD for me" who knows- since they did not explain that....

I think also as I have been told with being rather introspective-- this does not scare me, due to I realize I battle with myself---
sorry for not being clear.I was not disagreeing with how you came about the articles/ books you have read on the subject.

by articles I meant that I have read many articles that state pretty much the same thing....that subselves come from when children and adults have conflicting rules / standards, and that those who go through having to adjust to conflicts create alternate selves / alternate identities due to this type of conflicting rules and standards.

I know many many children that have gone through having to adjust to conflicting rules/ situations and adults that have gone through conflicting rules and situations.. none of them have created alternate selves /sub selves/ alternate identities.

those that I do know that do have alternate selves /subselves/ alternate identities have undergone extreme abuse when they were children. it wasnt a conscious choice on their part to create these alternate selves/ subselves/alternate identities.

therefore I dont agree with any articles that place the blame for subselves/alternate idenities/ alternate selves on things like the child having two sets of rules to deal with.
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Thanks for this!
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