The part I I disagree with is "they need to see x..."
I don't see that as anyone else's place to inflict on another. So perhaps I more want to keep the authority or figure who sees themselves as an authority away from my clients or wards to keep them free not as much from jail or whatever the penalty for the crime was (certainly that is a part of criminal defense - but not the issue internally for me) but from the forced infliction of the values of others.
Hence my own issues with being controlled or manipulated by others. Possibly part of parental things.
I am being inarticulate here and that frustrates me.
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