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Old Feb 03, 2013, 08:54 PM
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Sally, you are not being pushy at all. I as always am very grateful for your post.
You know, I think you are actually onto something here. T actually pointed out that I was good at staying in situations that are not good for me. I seem to be very slow to want to change things and I have no idea why. I have just always been like that. Maybe this is why I am so unhappy now. Do you know why I do this?
I have always been like that too, and for me, I can think of a couple reasons that I have done stuff like this. I think a lot of times, for me, it was a huge fear of failure, and that if I quit something, it meant I failed it. No matter how bad that thing was for me. Turbulent friendships, ballet class, emotionally abusive relationships, my college major -- wow actually I really do do this a lot. Anyway some of those things bore fruit, but all required me to change in SOME way, or leave something behind, and to find a way to cope with a failure that wasn't even a failure. Sometimes with relationships, I think one component was sincerely feeling like it could be fixable, and I could not leave the possibility of the relationship becoming good behind. Or something like that. And definitely, there was also an undercurrent of questioning whether I deserved to be happier elsewhere.

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I am glad that you pointed it out to me because now that you have said it, it is exactly like the situation with my ex and my mother and everyone else.
See, I like t but maybe she isn't right for me. She is a lovely woman but we are not suited together for therapy work but I don't think I could just quit I guess I hope that things will eventually become right without me having to interveen.
Sorry you struggle with body issues- they are awful and sooo painful. Have you always been this uncomfortable with yourself or is it after a particular event- you don't have to answer, I am justy curious thats all.
No problem, don't mind answering. No specific event for me. In fact what's more perplexing is the my parents really went out of their way to make sure they did not make comments or anything like that that might cause me to hate my appearance. They really didn't want me to have those body issues. But they came anyway. I was a really scrawny kid, when I look back at photos, but I always saw fat. People TOLD me I was skinny but I still saw fat. I think that even though my parents made a gallant effort, the problem is, when someone is (1) depressed anyway and (2) pushed hard for perfection in other areas, that kind of lack of self-worth and inability to accept oneself bleeds into other aspects of life, and don't just stay in one place. And then, of course, the media does not help. Not at all. But I had these issues before I ever opened a Victoria's Secret catalog. What about you? Sounds like your mom did not have the same goals as my parents in that area

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Regarding my sexuality and T, she doesn't get it at all and she tells me that she doesn't understand it, she doesn't know enough about it but when I try to explain how lonely and isolated I am she brushes it off. Shge even said last week that maybe I will never love again or find another woman and at that point I burst into tears because the thoughts of being single forever makes me depressed. T said she can see me getting married and having children, she thinks in the long run that only this will make me happy and I am starting to think she is right because being gay only brings sadness and pain to me.
Whoa! What a terrible thing to say! How pessimistic. I remember when I was seriously getting ready to leave my husband, my T kept reminding me that I should not stay with him just because I didn't think there was anything else out there, and that I had plenty to offer and that it would not be the end. Goodness! You will most definitely find love again. It may require more time and work than feels possible right now, but love's out there. And as CE said above, you can certainly have a family without getting married to a man. There are SO many possibilities and I wish she would help you explore them.

I think it's a relatively good thing that your T is up front about the fact that she is out of her depth when it comes to issues of sexuality that aren't out of the box of husband/wife/babies. But, ouf. I mean, you are training to be a T -- you know the importance of empathy. Just because I'm not gay doesn't mean I don't relate to your issue of hating something about yourself that you can't change. So, it's rather disappointing that she isn't trying to find a way to feel your experience.

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I stayed with my ex for so long because although she abused me, sexually, physically and emotionally I loved her very much and it never crossed my mind to leave her or that I was worth more than this or deserved better. I only seriously considered leaving when she said I meant nothing to her, I packed my bags and was leaving but then she threatened to kill herself and I couldn't bring myself to leavce incase anything happened to her. I now can see that it was a very unhealthy relationship but I still loved her and still do but I have to learn how to teach people to treat me properly.
I'm really glad you're trying to get your power back, Button . Your ex certainly seems to have tried to take it from you, but it really is yours.

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Thank you again Sally for your helpful reply, I am so grateful that you brought this pattern to my attention. I will really have to think about this. You really are good at this, maybe you should consider becoming a T
That's very kind of you! I'm glad what I said was helpful. I have realized, through my own therapy journey, that becoming a therapist might actually have been a good career track for me, and if I could tolerate the idea of more school, I might even go for it now. But, I have kept counseling in my mind as something I could pursue, maybe, if I ever become dissatisfied with my current career track. It's great to hear that it's not totally inconceivable!
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