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Old Feb 12, 2013, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCake View Post
I wasn't comparing the 1% with homosexuals. I was only suggesting that people tend to end up where they are simply because of bad luck and the actions of themselves or others.

And I have said nothing negative of homosexuals themselves.

Anyway the whole detective situation seems odd to me.
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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster View Post
Agreed about bad luck. But we try to compensate for that. We have remedial education programs for the learning disabled etc. Shelters for the victims of domestic abuse. SSI for those who cannot work due to health issues (SSDI is insurance so you pay into it as you go, but SSI is pure aid). Etc. etc. If drawing the card of a minority orientation is bad luck, how would you compensate for it? How would you deliver a level playing field?

Well, it is a very simple problem with a very straightforward solution that does not cost any money, unlike remedial programs, SSI, and shelters. Just stop calling homosexuality bad names and accept it for what it is - an innocent variation of humanity. Interestingly enough, if you apply this solution, then the "bad luck" situation more or less evaporates into thin air. The whole problem disappears. No more need to compensate for anything.

And regarding actions: no, people do not choose sexual orientation so there is no action implicated in orientation. I have been well advised of the many benefits of the lesbian lifestyle but I just cannot force myself into something that seems so foreign and weird to me. The reverse is probably equally true. Sure, there are some flexible people in the middle who can vacillate between the poles of orientation as they go through their lives, but for the rest of us it is just a feature that we come with. And you cannot change it - you can dye your hair but not force-change orientation. So actions are irrelevant. What precedes actions is choice. In order to complete an action, you need to be able to choose it in the first place. You just cannot accomplish it with the orientation - there is no choice. Which brings us back to the issue of fairness - it is unfair to fault someone for having a harmless feature that he or she cannot disable or modify/alter.

I have no idea what you two are talking about, nor do I understand how this pertains to either of my situations. I'm just confused.