ok sorry i am beating this to death .you all know how hard it is to make a simple call to my T but wiki is right . i think i will call her and leave a very short message tomorrow morning .she is out of the office untill monday so she wont get it untill then but i will try and call. i don't feel right asking for help here if i am not going to do anything to try and contact T .so i will. but i do know she will not call me bak so i promice i will not whine about that either. love you guys .