Well James hun, you may be right about the beginnings. Having 3 unmedicated births (possibly same for even medicated ones) they are both amazingly beautifully intense and horrifying. Remember that things can be good and bad, light and dark, life and death, baby and man all at the same time. And thanks for the pics, I'd like to know #1 thru #33 of how not to congratulate a blind person. Maybe we should make a list about how not to try to console a bp... #17 don't try to tell him any "gotta's"?