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Old Mar 05, 2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VenusHalley View Post
And as for threatening myself... and none else... I'd say that would be my damn business.
No woman is an island, entire of herself, etc.

We are all enmeshed, even the homeless and those who don't want to be; somebody has to clean up the body of the suicide, somebody has to do something with it so it doesn't endanger community health, etc.

Taking illegal drugs, getting drunk, getting VD prostituting yourself, you have to get the money from somewhere and if you are getting aid from a public source, that is indirectly from me.

I'd like a vote as to whether you use the food money the public gives you for food versus for getting high. If you are stealing stuff, hustling to get the money to buy, I have higher insurance premiums as a result which I resent.

If you get sick or are in a fight and get shot or knifed, raped or whatever, currently I help pay the ER bills if you cannot and have to pay for the police to check out the crime. If you are in a place with government health care, not trying to care adequately for yourself, actively harming yourself uses up more health care resources which make my lines longer and burns out the health care workers who work with you faster so they don't have as much to offer me if I need it.

The severely ill are severely ill. Yes, I want to help take care of them but if they cannot get along with society in a way that society, all of us, the "majority" approves of, they get sanctioned in some way, just as others who are not able to take care of themselves or arrange care for themselves and live in society, such as criminals. If you are senile and unable to care for yourself and don't have friends or relatives able to care for you, you have to go to a place where you can be cared for. As with all things, some have better resources than others so some go to high end nursing homes and some to public ones. That will always be the case, I don't think there will ever be a time when everyone is the same/treated exactly the same, there have been communists, socialists, commune-ists (interesting, communist is the same as communist :-), anarchists, fascists, dictators, religious communities, etc. that have tried that and not many seem to want that.

It's a single hearing. There might be more in the works; maybe they are going to interview the ciminally ill faction, don't know.
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Last edited by notz; Mar 05, 2013 at 08:34 PM. Reason: added trigger icon for mention of suicide