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Fuzzybear said: I was fed many lies and distortions while growing up, as well as being abused. Confusion, confusion, anger, hurt, rage, pain, aching heart, fear fear fear, overwhelming sadness..... just a few of the effects. I'm sure you relate to these and more.

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Ye I can understand what you mean… esspesially the confusion, which even though not the most negitive of emotions is defantly one of the most disabling of life. I am sorry that you had to expiriance such things too

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their world had no trust in anythind, not family,not even a God, Goddess, Allah, Buddha....... nothing, no touchstone to found oneself upon.

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I understand what you mean… many people I have met (ever online or in person) who have been through any form of abuse are amazingally religious and claime a devine being of some description helps them through and to move on… I lost any faith in any such entity long ago… however, I have no problem with people who do have faith, happy for them as they have something to believe in or hold on to I guess… even if it is something unseen

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ps, I love your name,))))))) ) Orion ((((((((( . One of my favorite constellations!!

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lol, thanks… all my siblings have what you could call unusual names…