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Your analogy is perfect! Damned ivy has invaded and it's growing inside. I've actually had that happen. Thing is, the pruning clippers don't work on it anymore. The branches are getting way to thick. I need a pruning saw... but if my hands aren't strong enough to use the clippers, I'm wondering if I can use the saw... ya know?

You're right, though. I've done this before. It's just hard to remember what I've done in the past to get that ivy out of the way.

"If only" keeps obscuring the way...