Thanx everyone. @H3rmit, yes for the most part I do find these meetings helpful, but I'm not required to go. And Kendyll, that is a good point. I guess I didn't think about it like that, but you're right. People who don't go thru what we do just don't understand. Fortunatly, there are some people in the program who at least try to understand it and I've met quite a few who are in the same boat I am--I was focusing too much on the negative.