Thank you Rhapsody, I will check those out

GW, I hadn't thought to look there, though I am a member and go to the discussion forum! I will have to go browse.

That's a good one Sky, will have to see if I have any hose. Hot packs/heating pads sometimes make my joints feel worse. I don't know why, because sometimes when using, they feel make my joints feel better.

Good tips, thank you for sharing!