Yeah you probably have to get past the freudian slip part before they'll do it. Otoh, with gene technology advancing the way it is, fertilization may end up being your ultimate solution. So you may be right on. My mother told me that my old italian grandmother even told her (over 60 years ago), gee I dunno what kind of kids you two depressed people are gonna have. But from what I've seen on here, I believe you have an indomitable spirit.