Thanks allim. I see Shery didnt reply to my post but her recent posts say she takes SSRI's which may explain why she didnt get a benefit, or it could be another reason because I couldnt find out exactly what she did. In several of my posts I posted about whether SSRI's may reduce the effect. Is everyone here on them so if that is the culprit, then I guess thats that. Allim do you take any antideprressants?

In answer to you Allim, it doesnt matter how you hold your hand, whether in a fist or open, unless lying down, and then only to not allow your entire palm to touch your upper chest, only the heal of your palm and the backs of your fingers. in a losse or tight fist. BTW mothers wrote into a website to say their infant kept putting its finger in its ear.

Dont get the cotton wet, replace it if it does. Organic cotton only. Dont jam the cotton in the ear hard, because then it gets too flat and is hard to remove, GENTLY tap it in until it stops going in because it is touching the inner wall next to the ear canal where an ear plug for noise would go when you wear them. , the size of a small marble, large enough to duplicate the feel of your fingertip inserted to touch the inner wall next to the ear canal which is of course miles from the ear drum, but not so big as to be uncomfortable,or be able to tap in to touch that inner wall, definitely considerably larger than a pea, lets say the biggest piece that does not feel uncomfortable after fifteen minutes of wear. By no means small enough to even begin to fit into the ear canal. Like an earplug you would wear for noise., rolled into a ball. CHeck it every so often to make sure it doesnt come away from that inner chamber , touching the inner wall, it is that slight pressure on that innermost wall that triggers the benefit. and since it is such an exact spot, we can surmise that the fetus didnt need to touch it nearly as often as holding his hand up to form a useful gene, because it IS as effective as holding your hand near your chin or clavicle, because when you hold your hand up there is a huge number of possibly ways one can do this and so to evolve int a gene that worked well one would , so it seems, nave to hold his hands up a hell of a lot more than putting his finger in his ear or nose or the middle of the mouth, which also work great. , but all three involve touching the same identical spot, or maybe the evolutionary process is aided by the fact that there was pressure against a spot, and in holding the hands merely up, that is not the case. Just my thoughts on why all of those ways of doing it give the same resultss.

Allim what your rmind does , or how you breathe or hold your legs is irrelevant. Thanks again for the images,in a sense an image can be misleading thuogh because I tested having my hand or hands everywhere and know which poses are the best ones so an image my not always be one of the top ways of doing it, for example I dont think touching the hands together is good and maybe not crossing the hand over to the other side of the sternum so I just say it the way I said it, the closer to my chin I got with my hand the stronger it got, but not that much stronger than near my claviclebut actually the clavicle is near teh chin, not so close as to make it uncomfortable.if it is uncomfortable for someone and really anywhere upper chest high will provide a very large benefit. Of course the cotton makes it easier . It has to be organic.

The big problem though is that radiation, why dont you see if you can block it the way I described in a prior post, although Im not promising success at that, but worth a try. And like I said SSRI's may be a problem. BUt this is so powerful an antidepressant action that playing with this method would be very worthwhile. Maybe you would find that just wearing it during sleep hours when everyone's electronics would be off would be enough to relieve enough of your depression as to not be a problem any more. I tell you one thing, if I hadnt blocked that electronic radiation I would be depressed all the time, I am around mine almost all day . but then again I dont know how well off I might be just wearing it during sleep because I treat it all the time.

Thanks Steve Lord