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Rhapsody said:
IMO - (20 yrs married) - I do not think that he is necessarily getting upset because he cannot get his sexual pleasure without her involvement, but rather that he is HURT when she says NO....... for saying NO to any ones partner when they are wanting to be sexual (male or female) is like saying NO to them the PERSON (feelings, needs & all), and we all know all to well that NO can HURT and hurt DEEP.
BTW - I personally in 23 years of a relationship and 20 years of marriage with the same man.... I have only said NO to his sexual advances 3 times (not counting being sick or after having a baby), for I understand the emotional need behind a man his woman and their bonding through making love.
Remember that SEX equals LoVe to a MAN connected emotionally to a WOMAN!!! - to a MAN in LOVE.
LoVe,
Rhapsody -
</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Hey, Rhapsody, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one

I have similar "numbers" to yours, married 17 years and with him 23. A man is not his penis! "Love" is not primarily sex; that's the attractor/pot sweetener, not the glue. Have you seen the 1968 movie, "Yours, Mine, and Ours" with Henry Fonda and Lucille Ball? That's Love (and very similar to my family growing up :-)