Sometimes there is just too much going on to believe it could be coincidence.

If so, is there any absolutely sure way to rid one's self of this kind of thing? In addition to obviously prayer and asking others to pray?

The "family curse" idea comes to mind. Members seem to be plagued with horror. Every single thing they do ends in dismal failure, being used, being stolen from, sabotage, illness, and injury.

Also, could a person who wants bad things to happen to them be influencing this by either their own will/thoughts or prayers? The person is very active in the church (although is very hypocritical and wicked) but is a great actress who will cry, influence others, pretend to be a saint, literally do messed up stuff like pretend to speak in tongues, etc. This person is using an alias, deserted her husband and children almost forty years ago, and never spoke to them again. He was left to raise the four children who were very small. He could not locate her to file a divorce, and so she could not be located, and eventually was declared dead. It did not matter as they use an alias.

The person tends to run in church circles, pretends to be devout, and is always screaming and yelling thinking they are talking in tongues and yelling "we love you Jesus!" Or "Praise you sweet Jesus!" They are able to influence other people in the church, and will attempt to buy people's alliegence as they misappropriate and steal large sums. To gain sympathy and ward off questions, they have been telling everyone for the past thirty years that their husband and children died in the 1970s. They will cry and fake grief. They even made a wall hanging which tells this. No one knows they are still alive, but were quite easily found by a private investigator. They assumed she was dead and do not wish contact with her. She has lied under oath about them. She is above the law. Also, she hasn't never really worked, but always lives off a man or the generosity of strangers or churches.

If she and her church friends all pray against a person, will God destroy that person, or drive them to suicide, etc? Does their prayer outweigh the other people's? There was a legal issue, actually many, and the people on the other side tried to call her out once she came at them. She couldn't leave them alone, and is driven by greed and feeding on the emotions of others. If so, will leaving her alone make this stop, or will it go on until her death? Will even then it end? Will God place a curse upon people due to her prayers against them?

A bad thing happened a couple years ago. She wanted a legal thing signed that a will would not be called in, actually that no will existed, though she now admits it due to unquestionable proof. When the one she wanted to sign it refused, she sent a letter to them.

"If you do this one last thing for me, I will never bother you again. If not, you will lose everything...your money, your properties, your family. Dad turns over in his grave at how you treat me! Just remember, you can't hide from God!"

Is this a curse?

Since, her enemies have lost a business (or are going to) that was extremely successful for many years, due to the wife being injured. There have been several extremely hard hitting financial blows. The wife is in constant pain from her injury. She went for surgery, but it was called off, as she has contracted a harmful infection called MRSA. She has now passed it to her husband who is ill now.

Wife hasn't worked full time since December, and cannot get around well. Two years ago, wife was a thriving and attractive college educated professional with two jobs and a happy home and family life. Husband owned and loved his successful, self-made business. They were kind, friendly, and giving. Now they have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, are sick and in pain, and feel hopeless. Family members have largely sided with the other woman due to her buying them cars and stuff.

The husband and wife are going to end up homeless eventually. This infection is frightening and deadly. The woman's brother and sister in law, who also opposed this woman, are suffering similar fates, including the loss of his job as a college professor due to the college closing that department, and he now is stocking shelves at the dollar store for work...literally. His wife, with a master's in education, apparently commands too much money with such a degree and was replaced. She cannot find a job but cleaning buildings and working part time at a preschool. The brother and sister in law are devout Christians, the first couple are Christian but less active in it, and have been known to say bad words, etc.

If anyone knows how to make the bad things stop will you please pm me? I swear, I'm sane. It can't be a coincidence. We pray and so do our family and friends, but are we doing something wrong? We just want to be allowed a decent life free from extreme pain or illness.

So if someone knows about this or could direct me to a place of help, I would be grateful. Husband does not believe God would do that, and I'm afraid to ask the preacher.