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Originally Posted by DrSkipper
Don't think of masturbation this young to be sexual
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I know, they don't really even understand what they're doing, it's like cracking their knuckles because it feels good. It's just that the statistic makes it sound like these 7 year olds are fantasizing and masturbating in the way adults do, regarding explicitly sexual themes and goals. And that's what trips me up big time.
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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster
All of that was happening in the Soviet Union where sex was officially non-existent, so there were absolutely no "sexual" influences from society, no MTV, no make-up at school of any kind, uniforms for boys and girls throughout the whole public schooling timespan, no sex ed... and very modest clothing, believe me.
In other words, PURE innocence in its most PURE form. Isn't it what you cherish and value?..
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Wow. I hadn't considered that hypersexualized American society may be the culprit behind prepubescent child sexuality rather than innate nature. Your example gives me hope and relief; thank you.
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Originally Posted by George H.
I'm not sure I understand how someone could take their own innocence away.
Maybe you could try focusing on something else?
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It's explicit sexual fantasy that I have an issue with, not genital play, which can hardly even be considered sexual. I would focus on something else, but that children deserve innocence is by far my strongest held and most passionate belief; I have to know the issue inside out before I can make my conclusion and stop feeling conflicted.
Anyway. After doing all the research I could possibly do on this subject I developed a stance I can faithfully say is logically sound and benevolent. Basically my argument is that children should not be explicitly sexually interested/active (different from simply rubbing genitals because it feels good) until puberty when it is appropriate, for around 35 different reasons spanning over the fields of psychology, reason, morality, studies, spirituality, culture, history, and physiology which I'm compiling into an essay. i don't feel like going over it here as i feel i'm finished with my inner conflict and dont really need to debate it further on this site, i'm running it through some people i know to check for logic errors but it seems sound so far. If 35 reasons is what it takes for me to believe in what I love most, so be it. I'm happy with the outcome; it's cathartic.
feel free to continue responding to this thread, i'm all ears. and for anyone googling this in 10 years with the same concern, just PM this account if you want to hear my reasoning or discuss it with me, i'll check back periodically.