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Originally Posted by genetic
I will end my effort to defend the Western culture--which is not that which you describe for many here--by saying that arrogance is largely the result of ignorance and that you know very, very little about art, artists, and creativity from your written word or how to help bipolar personalities with your expressions. I may never forget the idea that manic-depressive illness in manic conditions makes people "inferior". What arrogance and insulting assumptions!
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No, no and no.
I did not say that I think manic conditions make people "inferior" but that when someone has a way of thinking in the frame of the Western dichotomies, they might well think manic people are inferior.
Do you ever read what I write?
Stop insulting me. This is getting ridiculous now.
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Originally Posted by genetic
How on earth can the "existence of a certain mentality" not be considered a reality?
Ask a bipolar person that question.
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Should I ask myself? I am bipolar. I meant it in the sense that if you stumble upon the mentality that e. g. "women are less intelligent than men", that this mentality exists and therefore is real. But that this does not mean that it is reality that women are inferior.
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Originally Posted by genetic
In your thread you gave no indication whatsoever that you understood art, the artist,
bipolar illness, or compassion for those who share a mood disorder.
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Indeed, I wrote almost nothing about creativity and artists in this thread, as I have no disagreement with you in this matter and as I deemed it more important to clear the misunderstanding before. This is why I did not react to the art explanation part of your "How can you have such an opinion? You do not estimate the great works which the artists made in their manic phases and therefore you have no feeling or understanding whatsoever of art" insultation-like postings: I do not have the opininon which you continue pretending I have to start with. You are carrying coals to Newcastle here. And this ist what I mean with "straw man argumentation".
But obviously, as I see now, you have formed an opinion of me based on a misunderstanding of my first posting, and none of my later attempts to clear this misunderstanding could have had any chance of success as you seem to be absolutely obstinated to keep this prejudice no matter what and to keep picking on me. You prefer to go on insulting me based on things I did not write, instead of reading what I really write, and you also don't care about the fact that I am no native speaker - indeed, I have to look up quite a few words for each posting, and my formulations may be a bit weird sometimes so this may also have been the source of the misunderstandings.
For the other readers, please don't take all the assumptions that genetic has made about me as granted, and his way of representing what I said as being the same as what I really said and meant. Genetic is bashig a strawman here.
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Originally Posted by genetic
I doubt seriously that you have a degree from any university or college, and yet you purport to have the same views of art and artists having not once expressed a realization that their creativity in manic-depressive illness is not an "inferior" standard, nor is their creativity necessarily the outcome of manic states.
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I have explained over and over again that the "inferiorness" is not my personal opinion but instead a point of view coming of a dichotomic worldview. Read my postings.
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Originally Posted by genetic
I wouldn't advise that you try for a degree in the arts while you are at a college or university.
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This advice comes too late. I have a master's degree in literature with a very nice grade. One of the courses I had - many years ago - was about the dichotomy of nature and culture in several novels.