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Originally Posted by dumbfounded
I thought this was supposed to be a support group??!! the way that the poster Genetic is tearing down Millenium, just cuz Genetic doesn't agree, is terrible.
I don't care how right you think you are Genetic, You can't tear someone down this way!
Not everyone is going to agree on here. No need for the attacks. I really don't give a rats *** if you think you are in the right or not.... You are tearing down a person who has tried to keep not only the peace, but their opinion too. Knock it off.
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Dumbfounded, Western society does not deserve the implications of the
postings by Millenium; neither do bipolar patients deserve the implied
or even misapplied suggestions promoted here. What she describes as
applicable to Western society is easily applied to any society in the world.
She obviously does not know anything really about Western society or
about the artist or the artist's work and accomplishment.
What about my position, Dumbfounded? I have never in my life had anyone accuse me of having erroneous reasoning capacity, (as in "straw man thinking" ),and If you think that doesn't deserve retaliation, you might as well forget to advise me to "knock it off". She said it herself: she "is not writing for a Western culture"; but at the same time, she directs everything to what she thinks is the western culture in content. She might be trying to write for a universal culture which would implicate her own country in her views, as well, and it might be more appropriate there than it is here in the United States. In fact, I think the views presented by the posts on western culture are reflective more of her own home country, based on her training in literature, as she reports now.
You will notice that she refers to the fact that "she doesn't want her name associated with...blah, blah, blah." Superior-inferior dichotomy? I tell you it's nonsense.
I am a very strong defender of bipolar patients and I will always remain loyal to their efforts and their works and to the positive aspects of my home country.
I find it extremely annoying to believe much of anything she says based on the way in which she twists and turns to avoid clarity and meaning. The chamelon has fewer colors, in my view.
If you find that offensive, I'm sorry, but as long as I'm listening to what people are saying and the undertones of their implications in writing, I will stand by my observations, study, and work in English and the arts.
Why you wouldn't be offended by the ideas promulgated here is a real reassurance of your stability and strength. Most bipolar people have extreme sensitivities and the only way to keep from being put down by those who do not understand sensitivity is to retaliate against the behavior being presented as unique to western culture or bipolar illness or creativity in bipolar illness.
Some things are obvious by the written word. I'm going to retaliate to things that are universal and treated as if they are unique to the good people of America or to "Western culture".
Arrogance, again, is largely the result of ignorance. Maybe the truth really is all that is needed to be said.
My study of literature in college and universities never led to such theories or analyses of dichotomies in cultures. It dealt far more with the humanities and classic literature, human conditions, emotions, character, closeness to nature, and all things that are truly part of the human experience. From my point of view, what she says may be highly appropriate for her own country, but nonsense here.
You'll just have to believe whatever you wish, Dumbfounded, and if I get cut off from the forum, it will be because of the retaliation against what I find to be highly offensive and misapplied when directed to "Western Culture", when it is actually more universal than anything else and
that has been knocked right off the wall. I've never seen a more "all-or-nothing" form of analysis in writing or in lack of clarity and intent.