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Old May 30, 2013, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster View Post

That aside, I personally believe that unless your wife is in very severe financial distress, she should be donating all her excess milk to babies in need rather than selling it. Breast milk is a blessing rather than a commodity, unless, again, there is severe financial need. It is not that I am against fetishes or find the guy perverted or anything, as I do not, but I just do not like seeing monetization of blessings. Also, children fed the milk of the same woman feel a bond that is special and unique. My mother had ample supply and donated to a boy whose mother was dry and he became my wet nursing brother or milk brother and I feel bonded to him. Actually I will look him up on the web today as I have lost track of him. Both his mother and mine have already passed away.

I know this will sound weird to you but try convincing her to donate rather than sell, and I am sure that she will become a better person because treating blessings the way they should be treated will straighten her moral character.
I would roughly consider us to be in severe financial need. I have no job, she has no job, I’m paying for full-time college education, we’re living off our savings to support her, I, and our beautiful baby, and luckily we’re living at my parents’ place. I also have a very restrictive budget that I impose on us, so I can understand her need for her own money, and why she found it very difficult to turn down the man’s offer to take her shopping and buy us things we need (or so he said, he also offered to buy her really expensive shoes, the ****). I don’t want that man’s help and especially not considering it will damage my wife and I’s relationship more, and his offer still fills me with disgust and rage.

I don’t think she has a problem with being giving. She is a very giving person; she is good at making crafts and things with her hands and has made wonderful gifts for my family members for Christmas and birthdays. She used to be quite giving to me; that has declined, though she does still sew up holes in my pants and such. I think her bent morals are more a product of her naivety and not understanding other people’s feelings. She can act like quite a young girl at times, wanting her wants and needs to be met but not realizing - or ignoring - the needs and wants of others. For example, last summer she was in the middle of the pregnancy. She was constantly pestering to have the thermostat down to keep her cool, because she didn’t want our baby to get too hot and get brain damage. What ended up happening is the rest of the family (not me since I am gone all the time) were cold because the temperature was too low for them. Naturally my wife’s body heat was higher than normal because of the extra person inside of her. It is fine to worry for the health of your child, but she did so in a way that was insensitive and frankly, offensive, to those around her.

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Does she supply the adopted baby with all the baby needs to grow or is the baby also fed some formula?
I'm sure the baby has all the milk it needs from the amount my wife sells to the mother. Each time she drives up here to buy some, the supply my wife sells her usually lasts her about a month, maybe a little over. I can't say for sure whether or not the mother also supplements with formula.

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also, what is LDS?
Sorry, it is the Mormon church. Formally, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints".

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So she is physicaally violent so you need to engage a divorce lawyer to get partial custody. She has declared a war on you and you should respond with wartime measures, a la guerrre comme a la guerre. In other words, stop suggesting counseling and get a lawyer.
I should have given more context. My wife is not naturally a violent person, at least not to me, that was the first time she ever hit me. We were fighting and I made the comment that she reminds me so much of her mother. She despises the correlation and I knew that, her mother is screwed up and frankly screwed up the childhood (and lives to an extent) of her and all her siblings. But I meant what I said, she truly was exhibiting some behaviors her mother has, and she punched me on the shoulder while I was laying down on the bed because of how greatly it offended and angered her. This is compounded with the hurt she was dealing with from Mother’s Day (again, another story but I don’t feel I am totally in the wrong there either, she expects a perfect Mother’s Day unconditional from how poorly she may treat me in the days leading up to). So I understand why she hit me. It didn’t really even hurt physically, but it hurt my feelings that she would actually resort to that, when she never has before. I believe her actions were more a retaliation of the hurt she felt and not a purely malicious intent towards me. Regardless, there are issues surrounding why she felt hurt and I recognize those, but she needs to recognize how she’s hurt me as well.

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Largely, to me it seem like the underlying issue is a severe lack of communication between you two, stemming from a seeming unwillingness of your wife to communicate. While I don't think it necessary that a spouse report and ask permission of necessarily everything (it's a partnership, not a hierarchy), the...intimate nature, I suppose, of what she's doing I think should've at least warranted a passing question on your end BEFORE she posted. Additionally, her communique with the guy in question was entirely out of line...the nature of what they were discussing was, in my opinion, on a sexual and personal basis (despite declining physical contact, she was willing to indulge in part his fantasy, which, following an admittedly pessimistic line of thought, are the first steps to a bad road), and the fact that she agreed initially to sell to the guy can be argued as such as well. She knew full and well what purpose the milk served to him. Again, while I can perhaps understand finances are tight, that should've been discussed in full with you.

I am glad to hear that she has ceased contact with the guy. That is a vital first step in working things out. But she MUST be willing to talk to you about things...it has to happen. The three big pillars in any relationship are honesty, communication, and respect. She has, in part, violated all three. Were I you, I would sit her down and try to have a talk with her. She needs to understand that you, as a couple, need to communicate, and you need to make her understand the severity of your perception (which I do think is correct) that she doesn't value your feelings. She should also take some consideration into your proposal for marriage counseling. Ultimately, she needs to be cognizant of the fact that she is your partner and your wife, and thus she needs to, to keep with the analogy, include you into the team. Otherwise...I'm not sure this can keep up.
Yes, exactly. She should have definitely asked me before posting the ad, or at least told me that she was going to before doing it, so I would have time to voice my opinion. Frankly, this is the smaller issue. My memory sometimes fizzles some facts and she might very well have gotten my word before posting the ad, but I cannot remember. I do not think she did; regardless, moving on.

Yes, precisely! The fact that she permitted to engage in such questionable (and offensive) subject matter with someone who she should’ve had a business-only relationship with. She says she is committed to me, and I believe her intentions are good, but I do not think she knows what it means to truly be committed to someone. I don’t think she understands what is and is not appropriate in marriage. The marriage of her parents is the complete opposite of an appropriate role. She prides herself on being an “open-minded Mormon” which, ironically, was one of the things that attracted me to her, but there are certain interpersonal relationship skills which she has not learned in going through life, and certainly didn’t learn it in her messed up childhood. I have talked to her about how she’s allowed him to carry on such disturbing conversations with her, and she defends by saying she wants to have open conversations with him and be open and comfortable to discussing anything, praising his curiosity. Which I find utterly sickening! Being open-minded is one thing, but there is no necessity, whatsoever, at having open conversations with a business partner! She doesn’t need to be his ****ing friend!

When he initially contacted her, her told her the milk was for nutritional benefits, and were for his workouts and training. I can’t really say whether or not that is true, but I think it’s undeniable that he was getting a huge sexual thrill off the whole thing.

My wife did talk to me about possibly selling to a man before she agreed to sell to him, and pained me very much, but after much thought, reluctantly I agreed. I knew how much pain she was in being cooped up at home all the time, not feeling like she has a life or that she is even loved or valued. I hated to see my wife in such a miserable state, so as painful as it was to consider this new disturbing development, I agreed to let her.

Thank you again for your kind and supportive words, you and everyone else.

Last edited by iamnobody11235813; May 30, 2013 at 02:10 PM.