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Originally Posted by eskielover
Hammy the lawyer at work. Down girl down....it sounds like you are in attack mode IMO against CG's moral values.
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Now let us talk about GG's wonderful and much celebrated "moral values".
When I was a child, I received a very firm grounding in secular morality that did not hinge on technicalities but reflected core human values.
One of the top moral values in that ethical system was that a man should RESPECT, CHERISH, and APPRECIATE the mother of his children.
This is not a technicality and it is not a relative issue. While reasonable people may differ in their stance on threesomes, reasonable people may not differ with respect to whether GG should respect his wife as the mother of his children. (Unfortunately, I did not live my own life according to that and allowed my ex H to call me an egg donor, but now that I have spent a lot of time re-evaluating my values, I realize that I was wrong).
So if there were no children in the marriage, GG's position would have been at least to some extent understandable.
To the extent that GG's wife gave him the children whom he values, she already paid for any misrepresentation that resulted in the marriage and, subsequently, the birth of the children.
Gender equality is fine until there are children. There is no gender equality once there are children involved, because men get their children for free, unless a pleasurable intercourse culminating in an ejaculation counts as hard work, and last time I checked, it didn't; women do not get their children for free; women "in pain ... shall bring forth children". It is a biological reality and will be so until medical technology evolves enough to alter it.
Since GG cannot undo the children, he cannot really do what he has been doing on this thread so far, which has been reveling in his self-righteousness. You cannot at the same time benefit from the birthing pain of your wife (he is happy he has his children as per the post I attached later, so he has benefitted from her birthing pain, morning sickness, stretch marks, diaper changes unless he did 100% of them, and all the rest of that).
A man for whom the sexual history of his wife prior to the marriage is more important than the fact that she ALREADY bore children to him is, in my book, IMMORAL - but again, I was taught morals that were not based on technicalities but were based on
core human values.