If you find a thread confusing then maybe it is better to avoid it.

I can assure you I'm not *trying* to be confusing.
I can assure you I'm not poking fun.
I can assure you I'm not trying to argue that god doesn't exist.

I can assure you that I'm looking at the arguments for (not against) the existence of God because:

*I* find them to be a beautiful tribute to god (assuming for the moment god exists)
*I* find them helpful with respect to contemplating gods nature (assuming for the moment a supernatural being exists)
*I* find them helpful with respect to concluding that (at least one) supernatural being does exist
*I* find them helpful for clarifying the role / nature of both reason and faith.

If other people find them helpful / beautiful too then hopefully the thread can continue.

If nobody does find them helpful / beautiful then you are more than welcome to post to all the other threads in this forum where the threads are more to your tastes.

Please don't ruin this for me because you do not understand.
(That is directed to EVERYONE reading this thread)

If it isn't to your taste please ignore it (I assure you I'm not hurting, accusing, attacking, judging, jumping to conclusions, attempting to undermine, poking fun etc)

Please leave my views to rest in peace if they are not to your taste.

Please feel free to respond if you get something from them.

Peace.