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the argument from experience:

P1) i have the experience of god
P2) in order to experience something the object of your experience must exist
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C) god exists!


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But don't schizophrenics, and others of us who experience hallucinations, counter this?

Radio flyer... If one uses the Bible as basis for belief, then God created everything and saw that everything was good. He didn't create anything that was evil...it was because of the angel's free will that evil came, imo.

And... hmm yes, we can flap our arms like a bird, that is free will... to fly like a bird is physics and not part of the equation, imo. (though aircraft travel would perform the same task )

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It's ok Sky, there aren't too many people in this world that can 'truly' grasp the concept of god.

It is mistakenly imagined by some that belief in a Supreme Being as the Creator and Controller of the universe is a mere emotional aspiration, a superstition of ancient times, irrational and illogical, and exploded by modern science.

It is believed that scientists (physicists, biologists and others) have erected some theory which both refutes and replaces the traditional belief in God. Such ideas have only a very superficial grounding, and are the result of ignorance or an indifference to both the fundamentals of religious faith and the scope of the physical sciences. It is a significant fact in the history of world thought that very few people have ever made it their business to refute the existence of God.

The views of the universe which are considered to be anti-religious are almost all agnostic, not atheistic, that is to say, they attempt to ignore the existence of God instead of denying it. This is true of certain views of modern science as well as of the ancient non-religious theories. The universe in which we live comprises an evident system of causes and effects, of phenomena and their results, and it is possible to discuss them indefinitely and construct theories about them, giving a superficial appearance of completeness. This is done, however, only at the expense of ignoring fundamentals or claiming that they cannot be known. If one were to search for a convincing statement based on firm principles that the existence of a Supreme Being is impossible, one would not be able to find it.

This is something that I have given great thought into and I would elaborate more, but it would get boring...lol