You have taken me too extremely. I did not say I do not consider other points of view. I am certainly free to consider and still disagree. The fact that I still disagree does not mean I have not considered it. I said I do not want do gooders and "helpers" thinking they are doing it for me. I did not say anything about people becoming therapists because of conscious selfish grabbing either. I also constantly added it the idea that one believes one wants to help/be compassionate could be a part of it - just not the whole of it. I also said others can do it differently from me and it is fine by me - as long as those others do not try and fob their way off on me. All I want is to be free of the helping do gooders. I do believe all humans are still savages at the root of it. We try, I believe, to deny it or separate or distinguish from it, but animals we are in the end. We rarely beat each other to death with clubs as groups any more in Western Culture, but is it really more civilized to drop bombs, shoot guns, etc? And so forth. I have not found the therapist to be attuned with me. If others do and it is useful to them - again it is fine with me. If therapist/want -to- be believes they are in it because of their extreme compassion, humanity, decency - then fine with me. Whether I believe them or not is of little consequence to them. I just don't want that person as the therapist I see.

I am slightly concerned about how the description you give seems to malign savages. In some ways, with a good clear cut savage, one knows where one stands. With the amorphous helping do gooder, one would do well to remain wary in that their motives, actions and desired results are not so clear, in my opinion.