> I believed all along you were trying to debate so this forum would be closed.

I don't want this forum to be closed. I have posted in the past in support of this forum. I was a little peeved at the time that Doc John didn't think it was a good idea, and I'm happy that he has changed his mind on the issue.

One thing that might be worth thinking about...

Is how much our preconceptions influence the way we interpret others. We respond to people on the basis of our preconceptions and quite often if our preconceptions are uncharitable then we evoke the behaviour we are most fearful of.

What I wanted to do...

Was to talk with the people who were willing to see that reason and faith are both important and that they compliment each other.

I then wanted to use reason to contemplate Gods nature...
To see what the limits of reason are...
So as to understand where reason leaves off and faith starts...
To see that they compliment each other and work in harmony.

Kind of like how theorists are currently starting to investigate emotion and reason and are seeing that we are best off if they work in harmony and that if we set them up to oppose each other it only leads to conflict and disorder.

I wanted to investigate those issues...

But some people don't seem willing / able to do that.
Maybe because of their preconceptions about me.
Maybe because they are so concerned about losing their faith they are afraid to look at the role of reason.
Maybe because they aren't willing to try and see what I'm saying because they are concerned I'll lead them along an insideous path towards godlessness, immorality, and despair...