Thanks. I am really grateful to have an alternative to that main suicide hot line.

In my area, the local guy who is in charge of it wanted to meet me for coffee years ago. I thought that was a little creepy, so I've avoided that number.

In my community, there is a good warm line that I've used. Sometimes, though, no one is available.

Any phone line, or site, can give you a bad experience. It can depend on the person there at the moment. I would never hold one experience against a provider of help.

Sometimes, there are patterns that reflect the training given by a particular agency. Like - The Samaritans, out of Boston, can be effusively warm and sympathetic for a set number of minutes. Then, suddenly, they say they're out of time, and that's it. I would be slow to call them.

I think the people in my state who man the national hot-line deserve a prize for being pretty awful. I was taunted so bad, once, that I ended up cutting my arms in despair, even though I am not a cutter. Never did that before, or since. I ended up in a hospital for 5 days. I was under horrible stress. The person at the help line was unbelievably inappropriate.

Thanks again for more options. Good to know about.