My point was, relationships are a two way street. Even abusive relationships. It isn't hard to imagine, especially in dysfunctional relationships, that either party could garner support, if they word their positions properly. I would bet it happen all the time.
But abuse is abuse, and the victim should get out of it, even if the abuser can manage to convince her or others that he deserves empathy and support.
and by the way, notice I said WE:
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and on and on from HIS point of view, we would all probably be giving him advice on how to save this relationship in light of the fact that he may be bi-polar, or something.
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I wasn't picking on anyone. It's just reality.
I too apologize.