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Old Jul 29, 2013, 01:00 AM
High Treason High Treason is offline
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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster View Post
that is very nicely put, in that you FIRST care about your partner's choices and only then, secondarily, about yours. Very very nice, indeed, and commendable.

To George - people who rationalize their behavior typically simply cheat while citing any law of nature that fits comfortably. Many go much further by rationalizing cheating for themselves while using a double standard with their spouses - a very common scenario in ostensibly monogamous couples.
It's kind of funny that when I talk to people in person about this, I often get monogamists coming back at me with "Yeah of course you want to sleep with other women, but what would you do if your girlfriend was sleeping with another man? huh?" and thinking they have somehow refuted my position. I tell them "I would ask her to be safe about it and to let me know where she is going to be in case she runs into any problems." These people are usually dumbfounded because they're just not able to conceive of a situation in which someone could be fine with that. They usually conclude that I'm just lying.

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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster View Post
That said, the natural/unnatural talk is probably not the most helpful due to the fact that "natural" is so poorly defined and so much abused as a word (cyanide is natural, too, but we still should not consume it). HT, can we talk about it without referencing the laws of nature? Because if we try so hard to be natural, we might just end up without the Internet - the Internet is not natural.
See what I have to say above about the natural/unnatural thing. I'm not some hippie who tries to argue that everything natural is great and that unnatural things are bad. I'm just saying that if something is natural for a species to do, and there's no real harm in doing it, I don't see a reason not to do it.