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Originally Posted by High Treason
If you believe I have dismissed anything, please let me know what and I shall address it. I have attempted to address all the important point people have brought up but admittedly may have missed something.
No you haven't. Simple, read your own thread and its clear. You only address the things you have an argument for. The rest you dismiss. Example: People have feelings, deep seated feelings are involved when people cheat, unlike lying about grandma's name...
I have not claimed to be a "king" or any other sort of authority. That's the great thing about rational discourse. No one can claim authority because all you need do if you disagree with me is provide a rational basis for your beliefs.
You clearly stated that our choices or beliefs need to be justified, to whom, you?
So yeah you implied you "are king" because we don't make sense to you, and still even now, you are demanding that we do.
^^^^Again, right there, you say I must provide you with a rational basis for MY beliefs...
WHY? Who are are you and why do I need to rationalize anything to YOU?
Why is it so hard to accept that people are individuals, with individual principles, belief systems and preferences?
We did that for you... Nobody slammed you for not being monogamous, nobody even asked you to justify it. We just accepted your choice as an individual. You are the only one seeking arguments and validation for OTHER people's choices.
I disagree with this to a certain extent. Please feel free to provide arguments or evidence for this contention and we can have a discussion about it.
NO.NO.NO.
Go do a bloody study or have a mock court case.
Nobody owes you a damn thing, again, my reference to who died and made you king?
If you still don't see why I use that phrase, then there's nothing I can do about that.
Hmm, you seem to be upset about something, but I can't imagine what. I have done nothing throughout this thread but provide arguments for my position which is that monogamy is an untenable belief system and leads to the use of unnecessary coercive force against one's romantic partners.
Yes, I'm upset that you purposely get people's back up against the wall and feign ignorance and trying to understand...
Why were you not just honest from the beginning of this thread? Why ask a retarded question claiming you are trying to understand. You could have stated that you are looking for a debate instead of understanding. That way you would have gotten the responses you wanted instead and we wouldn't have wasted time trying to help you understand.
The thread question was answered, many many posts ago. Another thing you promptly dismissed.
Yes, you argue argue argue argue, like there is a point in there somewhere. Nobody asked you to argue, you're just looking for an argument. Instead of graciously accepting the information put before you, that it is NOT unnatural for everyone.
See, you said again that monogamy leads to coercive force, instead of acknowledging that it doesn't have to. Like I pointed out more than once, re: mature adults, like minded people, blah blah. Another point you chose to dismiss more than once.
Soooo, YTF must I repeat myself? For your entertainment? I'm not a member of your personal circus.
Clearly you can read, you just choose not to, so you are not in fact retarded, I digress. You just feel like starting fires.
Calling me names doesn't really do anything to further the discussion. However, if you would like to discuss the issue at hand in a rational manner free of ad hominem attacks, I will be happy to do so.
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Not my fault if you act like the things I call you, there is no furthering this "discussion" anyway because you refuse to take your head out your a.s.s because arguing is much more fun.
If you really were looking for a discussion on this topic, as opposed to whatever the hell it is you're doing now...
You would have responded to one of us by now with;
"I see now that people are individual, and that there are people for whom monogamy does come naturally to, I also see now that some people are emotionally invested in their relationships, so that is why cheating would hurt their feelings" or something like that.
But no, all you've done is reiterate that to you we don't make sense, and we must defend our beliefs to YOU, like you are a deciding factor in the choices WE make.
MY LAST ATTEMPT AT EDUCATING YOU (because I'm actually nice like that)
People are not just objects created for someone else's pleasure, a blow up doll would be more suited for you if you believe otherwise.
To
many people, sex is not just sex, it's not just a logical mechanical act.
Emotions,intimacy, bonding and trust is built within these relationships, they are invested in your partner, if it was something that you can forge between numerous people equally, then there's nothing special or intimate about it.
I could never personally have a sexual relationship without those things. So yes, if he were to cheat, it would hurt like hell. Which might I point out, I mentioned before, but you dismissed the fact that I said
people have feelings.
So, now I will be bowing out of this rouse of a discussion for real, as I've said all I can to someone who is narrow-minded, and refuse to be part of your cyber circus
