syea ... i have had so many procedures, and trialed a tinge implant ... and I have about 30 different things I do from every philosophy I can find ... and I can usually get my back pain down to a lesser level, but my feet (especially the right one) get to a certain point and NOTHING works to get it back down ... except pain meds ... unfortunately. Believe it or not opioids do lend a certain amount of relief for my body, brain and nervous system !! its hard to explain ... the pain is ALWAYS there (even with opiods) what I try to control is the pain level ... it seems like the constant pain at any level still drains your nervous system, brain function, bodily functions ??? i don't sleep much with or without and after awhile I am not thinking right, i can't do the simplest tasks without EXTREME difficulty, clumsy and uncoordinated, i end up hurting myself by accident 5 or 6 times a day, and just general zombie like actions ... and when you get some meds ... its like a recharge of the depleted systems ???? or at least a displacement of the energy being used by those systems that are taxed by constant pain ... allowing them to re coop a little ??? like i said its hard to explain ... and I don't want meds all the time ... I try and do everything i can, to do the same things the meds do, nothing works as well ... I just want some meds when everything is so run down nothing else works