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Old Aug 12, 2013, 06:49 PM
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I am personally, the type of person that has a tendency to become withdrawn and sullen. No major reason, just the type of person I am. Part of my own past, neglect, being raised an only child, on and on. I sometimes, also become quiet and withdrawn, when tired, or really thinking about what someone said. Instead of coming out, with my opinions, I may sit and ponder. I've noticed this about myself, more. Yet, when called out on it, *lightbulb moment*, oh yeah, I'm not withdrawing from the person, but more *oops*, guess it's time to share what's on my mind.
That said, being withdrawn may be your fellas way of just being. It's when a person, is unable, unwilling, to just open up in the moment, and admit to what's on their minds, due to not being in touch with what their opinion is, is where there arises concern. Experience tells me, there's a difference from being withdrawn/sullen/whathaveyou and the silent treatment(which I have encountered in my former marriage--those are no fun)
I get what your bf means about tossing out the 'I love you's. I am like that. More now, than ever before. I found, from my past, how meaningless those words appeared in light of the struggles I endured. Actions, do speak louder than words. I don't, personally, need to hear those words uttered, to feel secure in a secure, comfortable, respectful relationship. There's many other ways, even in a LDR, to show how I feel and vice versa.
LDR's are tough. I get the notion of 'we really don't know each other' being said to you, YET, to me, that sounds like a passive statement that masks what he's really feeling deep down inside. If he's having doubts, it's up to him to express them, in a less cop-out statement fashion. Needs to say what he means, exactly, what does he mean he doesn't 'know' you. Being friends for years, and during this one year experience, why wasn't he asking you who you are deep down, where do you come from, what are your opinions on life, what are your personal life philosophies, how have you handled strife, so on and so forth. By now, especially with the distance, he Should, technically know you from the inside out. And even the quirky habits that you have, as during a LDR relationship/holding pattern, you'd have been as forthcoming as possible, little things about how the toothpaste is handled, cabinets shut/open, toilet lid stuff and all those little things that can annoy the p*** out of people, or not annoy people. By now, you'd expect to understand spending habits, credit stuff on and on and on. That's the disclosure that should occur in an LDR when it's talked about becoming more serious, marriage included. ((which, with the LDR, you do have the luxury of knowing all these things and more, and not be so quick to mask it with intimate moments under the sheets))

Don't know, what to tell you, if he is getting cold feet. I just know, I wonder what you mean about having been through H*** together, already?



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Originally Posted by KathyOlivia View Post
So the bf is supposed to come over for a visit. Up until a couple days ago he was thrilled...eager even. Of course, I recognized the pattern...he gets way eager just before the flip side comes out..when he gets distant. So I enjoyed it for what it was, and waited.

Sure enough, a couple days ago he got distant, didn't say he loved me when I said it to him (at the end of our skype visits). I finally called him on it, gently and he said the words mean nothing to him, it's about actions. It's an old saw and I said ok. (Nevermind, that forming the words and saying them IS an action.)

I mentioned why they are important to me but he just insisted they weren't important to him. So I let it go. I did ask him later if he still wanted to marry me as that was his original plan and the reason why we've gone thru all of this hell...and he said (not unexpectedly) he didn't know...he didn't know if he wanted to get married. He stated that we didn't really know each other because we'd only been in person company twice (both times for 2 weeks) and then this time (although we've known each other for years and have talked daily for better than a year) I mean.... I didn't even address it.

Because, quite honestly, I don't care anymore. I have my own issues I have to deal with now...and he has issues I knew (recently) I was going to have to deal with...but he's hurt me so many times with his push pull, mood swinging ... and he's supposed to be here in a few days. I almost wish he wouldn't.

I feel like even tho I've started my new life, I"m still on hold waiting for him. He was supposed to 'propose' properly to me when he comes over...that was his idea. We've known we were going to marry...again, his idea...and so now I'm thinking..effin h*** , does he expect me to be his forever gf? Sooo not gonna happen.

So I'm angry, furious, past furious and I know I'll crash soon and that makes me angrier because there will be tears and regrets and I just want to tell him he's a jerk and stay the h*** where he is.

Except I think I still love him. I just hate what he's doing to us, and has been doing for months. And I know we're gonna have to have *that* conversation if he does come...and I don't want it. In fact, I'm afraid of it. I just don't know what to do.

I know it's me...I know its not real, but I just don't know what to do except sit very very still and hope it passes. I know he feels my distance because I can't help but show it, because I'm afraid. I can't pretend anymore and when he shows his eagerness again, I'm afraid I'll just tell him off, just to watch him slink away. That's so awful .... he's hurt me so many times. I hate myself for feeling like this and I hate that he's done this to me and has ruined our visit even before he's gotten here.