Hey guys thanks for your reply.

Ive witnessed things at first hand.
Of course at some point I did think "is this all true"?
As it does seem to be way out of control to endure such things.

Over a year ago I visited his mom one on one to try and gauge what the hell is wrong with this guy?
She basically told me allot of things and made him out to be a VERY problematic person.

Im not denying that he is not problematic. He can be quite problematic to the point of causing me the highest levels of confusion and anger.
However he is also an extremely heart felt man.
Just lost at the best of times.

His mother is very manipulative and deceitful.
She swears just as much as a dirty prisoner.
Her character is always on guard ready to attack.

When ever we would visit her it would not be for longer than 10 minutes literally. She would always say to her son "Now listen, I don't mean to be the brunt of bad news, however etc etc and etc have said this about you".

Which would always be negative reinforcements that would generally involve his children or his ex partner.
She also would involve his older brother in her aim to hurt his feelings.
Never short of letting her son know that his older brother has also said horrible things about us both.

I've never met his older brother and never will.

She's also a charmer, turns on her lady like mannerism when other people are around but as soon as they leave she's back to her real self.

To be honest sometimes Im sitting here thinking, should I really bother?
Whats the point in trying to help someone with such huge deep issues?

I don't know maybe I'm a sucker for punishment?
Or just love helping people.

On a good note,
He's made the steps to seeing a psychologist this week.
So I give him credit for making that step.