[]Mojo said:

"For the quality of insecurity/controlling behavior, on a scale of 1 to 10, if "typical" is a 5, then on good days someone would be at a 2 and on bad days they would be at an 7. But the center number is what matters.

Sounds like your guy's "normal" is at an 8, and on a bad day he is at a 12 and on a good day a 7. That's too much. And IF he can see that it is a problem, and IF he wants to change, he is going to have to get all THREE numbers down. Not just one.

Example, if he works hard at it, and gets it under control to where his typical day is at a 7, and his good days are at a 5, but then once a month explodes with a 14, he really hasn't affected a change. He is just binge/purging his outbursts.

I hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]"[/COLOR]

This makes alot of sense, and really cleared some things up for me, as well, for I see my recent Bf in this post, in what Liz described..The word "outbursts' stood out-they are like episodes..and you must weigh how many you receive, and what really should be acceptable..