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Old Dec 24, 2006, 07:37 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, I guess I call myself a humanist much of the time... People worry that the term 'brights' implies that anyone who isn't a bright is 'dull' or 'stupid'. They take pains to say that they aren't intending that. That the term 'gay' doesn't imply that anyone who isn't gay (as in homosexual) is 'dull' or 'dreary'. But the trouble can come of brights themselves implying that :-(

I heard somewhere that trying to get atheists / agnostics / humanists etc to accept some umbrella term (to show their similarities) was like trying to herd a bunch of cats. Lol.

I do think there is room for... What I guess I think of as 'mystical' experiences in that world view, however.

Wittgenstein talks about this in the Tractatus... The feeling of the mystical.

It can be hard to get into the spirit of it... Wonder. That there is something rather than nothing. The feeling of hitting up against the limits of sense... Hard to convey. Of course I don't attribute such experiences to a supernatural entity. But... I do think there is a place for spirituality / the mystical experience. I also think... However... That just as it is important for science to not overstep its bounds it is equally important for religon / religous faith to not overstep its bounds.

Balance is probably a good thing.