Yoda, that is what I go through with my 7 year old daughter to some extent, but she has severe ADHD to the point that you just knew by the time she was 2, and she was diagnosed just before she turned 4. We have the same rule with her about time outs, as long as she is in the chair one way or another, it counts. With my son, I stand outside his door (so he can't hurt me) and remind him that he can come out as soon as he can be calm for 4 minutes, but the thing with him is once he gets to that point, nothing matters, nothing gets through to him, so I try not to talk to him except when he gets too violent because it tends to set him off more. And sometimes I have to restrain him, just hold him in a really tight hug if I can, because he is so out of control that he will hurt himself throwing himself around or smacking/punching/pinching his legs or arms. Last year his pediatrician said he suspected mild hyperactivity, and he can be hyper, but it's only once or twice a day for maybe half an hour, most of the time (when he's not having a meltdown) he is extremely calm for his age and the way he can focus on things is unbelievable. I have tried smoothies, but my blender is getting a little old and if there are any chunks that don't get broken up, even what we would think of as tiny peices, he won't drink it. Even when I can get it really smooth, it just depends on his mood that day.